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First Experience - Component PanelView

Article ID: 84
Last updated: 08 Sep, 2008
There has been a few of us wondering about the new Component PanelView, so being that I just had my first experience with one I figured I would share it with you.

This is a smaller system with only 2 screens that is interfacing with a MicroLogix 1500 via a 1761-NET-ENI. This system is a duplicate of another system that I built using a Standard PanelView 2711-B6C20. As simple as this system is, I opted for 2711C-T6C. The primary function of this PanelView application is to show status indication of the system, so there are only a few operator controls on the screens.

To put it simply I am fairly impressed with the Component PanelView. One thing to remember if you are going to use it is that the power supply is 10-30 Vdc, it is not available with 85-240 Vac power source. This was fine for this app, but I have another application where 120Vac would be nice. The unit shipped with a basic application already on the system, which has multiple screens with generic tutorials on how to get connected to the unit. This was quite nice because it got a few other non-tech guys familiar with the connectivity basics within a minute or two.

Just as a note, if you are going to hook up this unit to the Serial port of a SLC or 1500LRP Chanel 1 you need to use the 1746-CP3, DO NOT USE THE 2711-NC13 like you would use with the Standard PanelViews.

Getting online and programming can be done either by the USB Port or the Ethernet Port on this unit. To accomplish USB programming you will have to install a USB device driver, but no other software is necessary. I chose to connect via Ethernet, where as no software or drivers are necessary at all. I used IE7.0, although you can use Firefox, I even had success with Linux (Ubuntu) running Firefox, and I am pretty sure that others Browsers will probably work as well. The user interface is really pretty clean and easy to understand. The main screen gives you status of the unit along with all the Terminal settings and applications information. You will also create and edit your application from the buttons on this screen. Through the Terminal Settings window you can change things like screen saver settings and terminal security which can prevent anyone else from accessing the unit, which is a nice feature especially if this is to be placed on a network. One thing that I am not thrilled with, is the screen saver. I haven’t found a way in which to change the Screen Saver image. I also haven’t found a way to shut off the Back Light after a certain period of time. You can adjust the “Dimmer” feature for the screen saver, but not shut it off. Perhaps these would be good future features.

The File Transfer is also fairly nice, allowing you to upload the Alarms, Recipes, and both upload and download the application. Even though there isn’t any “Offline” software for this (that I am aware of), at least it is a way of backing up and duplicating it to other units easily.

Creating your first application with this is fairly straight forward, although it does help if you are, or at least were familiar with the ways things were done with the Standard PanelViews. Even though the Programming interface is nothing like the PanelBuilder, many of the object properties are the same along with a long awaited visibility object property. One big difference, is that you have to have the Tag created first, in order to assign it to an object. You can not create a Tag from the area where you assign the Tag like you could in the past. There are several objects that the Standard PanelViews don’t have, like the Trend. The Trend object is pretty nice and fairly easy to setup as well, this is something I will definitely be using in future apps. If you are like me and constantly use Shortcut Keys to attempt to speed things up, well forget it, there is stuff on the “Menu Bar”, but it was still something to get used to.

I haven’t tried any of the other communications protocols yet, but it looks like the most popular protocols are included, both Ethernet and Serial protocols, which could be quite nice. Along with the protocols, processor types for many different brands are also included, which should simplify the setup for many applications. Unfortunately Pass-Through is not a possibility, at least at this time, which would be one extremely nice feature and perhaps maybe it will be included on a future version, but for now we are out of luck.

While building the application is pretty easy and in my opinion self explanatory, the only real bug that I ran into, is the validating of the app after building it.   While you would think that the folder would validate the whole project, I found that is not the entire case. I had to use  , which looks like it not only validates the project but converts it to something that the terminal can use, because once you save the project after the validation, you can run your app.

Both a Pro and a Con is you can see / test your app as your building it to ensure that the layout is exactly what you want, although it is not functional while editing. But the down side is you can’t edit a project while trying to use the screen for production. This is where an Offline software or editing capabilities would be handy.

Overall I give it 2 thumbs up. Considering price, functionality, ease of programming, and features I will choose the Component PanelView over the Standard PanelView without hesitation.
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Last updated: 08 Sep, 2008
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Dutch | 03 Sep, 2008 12:00 AM
There is a way to change the screen saver image. Here is how to do it.

1. Connect the terminal via USB
2. Open up ""My Computer"" on your PC
3. In the address bar, type ""\""
4. You should see a list of folders, among them one that says ""ScreenSaver"". Open up this folder.
5. Locate the screen saver image you want on your PC, rename it to ""Screen Saver.bmp"" and overwrite the existing image in the ""ScreenSaver"" folder.
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plc_chick | 03 Sep, 2008 12:00 AM
There is an offline software package available - the PanelView Component Emulator is available as a free download for use in offline programming (no license needed). Be sure to download both the Emulator as well as the Help and Extended support package if you want the help files and sample applications installed with the 'Complete' Emulator installation.
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CDawg | 03 Sep, 2008 12:00 AM
You can actually change the default bitmap used by the screen saver. You must be connected to the terminal via the USB connection. Using you PCs file system explorer you can browse to the device using its UNC path name. The bitmap is stored in the terminals ""Screen Saver"" directory and is named ""Screen Saver.bmp"". You can only ""replace"" this bitmap. For example, if your device is named ""My_T6C"" you would browse to the terminals ""\My_T6CScreen Saver"" directory and replace the file named ""Screen Saver.bmp"" with a bitmap of your choosing. Just for clarification: You must rename your bitmap image to ""Screen Saver.bmp"" before you attempt to replace the one on the terminal. Alternatively you can use the terminals IP address instead of the terminal network name. Example: ""\ Saver"". This will be the same IP address for all terminals connected via the USB connection. These instructions only work when you are connected via USB, and have the terminals USB driver installed.

Hope this helps...
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Brian Weed | 07 Jan, 2009 12:00 AM
I was less than impressed with the tag import process of the component class PV. I have decided that Red Lion is a better soloution for this class of an HMI due to the limitations of the CC PV when it comes to getting the tag database imported.
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MZobrest | 16 Jun, 2009 12:00 AM
I tried one of these out and was not impressed at all, the competition is much better at this price point.
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Mike Z | 26 Jun, 2009 12:00 AM
I was extremely unimpressed with this product, it seems to have been developed without evaluating what the competition provides in this price range. It reminds me of a Playschool or Fisher Price version of an actual useful industrial product.
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Jim | 27 Apr, 2010 12:00 AM
I just struggled through a new application trial and error style - mosly error. Panelbuilder was a struggle at first as well though. Many hours of "help sessions" later the application is out there and working. I'm getting the hang of it now and it is not that bad. The software is a little clunky and I wish I could make the program screen bigger. There might be a way but I've not found it yet. I wish there was a way to get some training on how to use these things. I've got another one to do so will try and do it better. If anyone knows of any "sample programs" out there I'd be interested in checking them out.
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The Edge | 02 Dec, 2010 12:00 AM
Pure junk. Cheap yes. But you get what you pay for. These things crash, lose their IP addresses, lock up, freeze, and are exceedingly slow and cumbersome to program. After doing a couple, I went back to a Classic 600C and it was like a walk in the park as everything worked, and it was so much faster. The tag import is a joke, and if you lose the IP, good luck with a remote recovery. There are so many superior products in comparison, I have no idea why anyone would want one of these toys.
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Kip Edgley | 12 Nov, 2011 12:00 AM
Jumk Terminals. This may be the worst product ever developed by AB since 6200 software. This is just a useless terminal that does so much wrong, it is difficult to even describe. First and foremost, it's object creation, drawing tools, alignment tools, etc are functionally challenged. The browser interface is so slow that is almost maddening. The validation process, both the sectional and the entire process is time consuming and cumbersome, and my absolute main peeve is the inability to create a tag on the fly without going into the tag database tab. Further, you can't identify any tag properties in development beyond the tag name which DOES NOT link to the tag property application. Save yourself the insanity which will follow, expecially when you expect alignment to work like RSV32 and it does almost incomprehensible alignment calcs which gives you totally unexpected results, and use PanelView Plus terminals. The cost difference in the PVCC's will never make a difference as you will take 4X longer to develop it. Or better yet, contact Lee Chee Wah who is Rockwell's product manager, and tell him to fix this junk. It is giving Rockwell a huge black eye. We will NOT recommend this product to any customer.
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Mario Brito | 08 May, 2012 12:00 AM
i need help me, for te configuration of panelview c300 in trend properties, in especific timespan value. tks...
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